Talk:Mexican National Welterweight Championship

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We should probably start forcing mandatory sources when people make changes to dates and title reigns. I changed this because 2/16/95 didn't exist as an AAA taping with a title match and it turns out whoever changed it was thinking 2/16/94 which was when Psicosis beat Santo for the *WWA Welterweight Title*. So the title was wrong AND the year was wrong.--Robert 23:26, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

The source of the title change in February 1995 instead of May 1995 was none other than itself:

AAA TV (MON) 02/06 Reynosa - 1) Psicosis I b El Hijo Del Santo [MEX WELTER]

I only mistyped "02/16" instead of "02/06". And Rizardo Ruiz lost the title at this show:

Carnaval de Campeones (1965-01-13) - La Arena México @ México, Distrito Federal (Mexiko): 1. Johnny Ceballos beat Ángel López, 2. Acapulco Welterweight Title Match: El Capitán beat Abundio Radilla, 3. Acapulco Middleweight Title Match: Rafael Salamanca beat Braulio Mendoza, 4. Mexican National Lightweight Title Match: Rodolfo Ruíz beat Chanoc (c), 5. Mexican National Women's Title Match: Isabel Romero (c) beat Irma González, 6. Mexican National Welterweight Title Match: Huracán Ramírez beat Rizardo Ruíz (c), 7. Mexican National Light Heavyweight Title Match: Raúl Reyes beat Ray Mendoza (c)

So the only fault in my last two changes was that 1 instead of a 0. --Ringo 17:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Cubs got that result (Santo/Psicosis) from my results file and just entered it into the wrong year by accident. So that confusion is cleared up. It was 2/16/94 in Reynosa.--Robert 22:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry! --thecubsfan 03:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

By the way @ thecubsfan: there seems to be another mistake at the event archive on 2/16/94: AAA TV (WED) 02/16 Mexico City is the same show as AAA TV (FRI) 02/17 Mexico City one year later. February 1995 should be correct. --Ringo 23:28, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

How could Ciclón Ramírez win the vacant championship on 1989-05-21 when it wasn't vacated until 1990-01-12? Other sources say that Azteca won the NWA World Middleweight Championship already on 1989-04-28 instead of January 1990, but that would mean the Luchawiki Champions listing of the Middleweight title isn't correct. --Ringo 15:30, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I actually have the title history magazine I used for this handy. This is what they write, word for word

Angel Azteca acabó con el reinado anterior el 26 febrero de 1989 en la Arena Mexico, DF, pero renunció el 28 de abril del mismo año al ganar el Campeonato Mundial Medio NWA. En fin de eliminatoria, Ciclon Ramirez se coronó ante Bestia Salvaje el 21 de mayo de 1989.

So, the dates on both pages look off. I'll make the changes. --thecubsfan 05:17, 19 October 2008 (UTC)